Where the 40-Hour-Workweek Came From and How it Hurt the Economy

Can you imagine working a 30-hour week – not because your working hours were cut, but because it was the standard of the country? It’s something many workers have dreamed of but simply assume it’s not a possibility. But in actuality, there was a time around the Great Depression that the government actually fought for a work week of this length.

This makes you wonder just how many hours we should be working to have an effective day, especially when some other countries working shorter days and weeks? The history of the 40-hour work week is an interesting one, especially when it comes to its economic impact.

Zions Savings

The Pre-Depression Era Work Week

The standard work week has an interesting past. If you work from a time-line point of view, you will see that the work week fluctuated substantially throughout history. For instance, in the 4th century A.D., the Roman Empire had a whopping 175 holidays in a year, something workers of today would love.

In the Middle Ages, people were obligated to work eight hours a day, six days a week, excluding holidays. A saying from King Alfred the Great of England was “Eight hours work, eight hours sleep, eight hours play, make just and healthy day.”

As time moved on, the work schedules actually increased a bit, especially in the United States. In around the year 1800, a 14-hour work day was customary in the U.S. for men, women and children. This was largely due to the Industrial Revolution. Then in 1840, President Martin Van Buren issued an executive order that laborers and mechanics be limited to working 10 hours in a day.

But it wasn’t until the International Labor Organization held its first conference in Oct. 1919 that “Hours of Work” convention established an 8- or 9-hour work day, which constituted a max of 48 hours worked per week.

Just as the work week seemed to settle, the Great Depression hit. In an effort to avoid layoffs, President Herbert Hoover proposed a bill that would reduce the work week to 30 hours. It passed in Senate; however, it didn’t make it through the House.

When Franklin D. Roosevelt entered office, he tried to push again for shorter hours, but they were overruled by the U.S. Supreme Court. Instead, the Walsh-Healy Public Contracts Act of 1936 passed, which required the federal government to pay its contractors overtime wages after eight hours of work in a day. And then the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 passed, which established the five-day, 40-hour work week for everyone, a standard we observe today.

What Are the Work Weeks of Other Countries?

The work weeks for countries around the world have varied over the years, but overall seem to have increased a bit so that they are similar to the work week of the United States. What’s interesting though is that, according to statistics from the Organization for Economic Co-Operation and Development, the average work week for many countries is relatively lower than one might assume.

According to a map produced by the organization, the average work week for the United States is 35 hours and since the recession hit (which was after the map was produced) the average work week dropped even lower to 33 hours. This is lower than Poland and the Czech Republic, which average 38 hours per week, Greece, which averages 41 hours per week, and South Korea, which averages 44 hours per week.

However, the majority of the world, according to the map, works fewer average hours per week than the United States.

For instance, in Spain, Denmark and Ireland, the average work weeks are 31 hours. In France and Belgium, the average work week is 30 hours. And in the Netherlands and Norway, the average week is an unbelievable 27 hours.

Also, in many countries, the average number of paid vacation days averages 20 days (or four weeks), whereas in the United States, the average vacation period is 10 days.

What Would Happen if We Reduced Hours?

While the work week may show a decrease when averaged with part-time workers who have managed to keep their jobs as a result of their employers’ attempts to keep them employed in exchange for fewer hours, the standard is still 40 hours. However, some question how reducing working hours could impact productivity if doing so were made a standard.

Eric Rauch from MIT noted in his 2000 paper Productivity and the Workweek that “An average worker needs to work a mere 11 hours per week to produce as much as one working 40 hours in 1950.” In other words, we should be able to work reduced hours with no impact on productivity.

Even more interesting is that his research says that “polls and surveys have shown that people in countries with the standard of living that the US enjoyed in the 1950s are no less satisfied than today’s Americans.”

The only problem is that no one will be able to accept a 1950 standard of living after having already lived a 2010 standard. But then again, would we really have to give anything up? Think about all of the cars you see sitting on lots around the country. There are tons of products in stores nationwide with no threat of surplus reduction anytime soon.

Most likely, even if hours were reduced, there wouldn’t be a reduction in productivity due to the advancements in technology that have made it possible to increase productivity while working fewer hours. This is evidenced by the number of companies that have found ways to reduce their work weeks while maintaining or increasing productivity since the beginning of the recession. Despite having to layoff workers, they were able to keep their companies running.

In fact, Iowa’s state employees were recently awarded a four-day work week in order to cut energy costs with the understanding that productivity standards would not reduce. Other states have tried the work-week reduction as well, including Hawaii and Washington state, while Virginia and West Virginia are looking into the idea.

An official from Utah said that the five-day work week in the state is likely going to be a thing of the past because productivity isn’t suffering and energy costs have dropped.

Maybe in time, if the pilot states are able to show that there has been no true impact on their economies, the nation as a whole will follow suit on a standard reduction in hours, something that could not only reduce energy costs, but also create more productive individuals after receiving an extra day of rest. But in the meantime, it seems that workers must prepare to be laid-off and also know how to survive a layoff, because it’s much more cost-effective to just let a worker go (wages, benefits and all) than to reduce hours across the board.

Would you like to save more with your 40-hour work week earnings? Get one of the top rates in the nation with Zions First National Bank

  • Lanabalana

    It would be nice to just work 20 hours a week.

  • Catmoves

    True history and this article do not have a lot in common. Perhaps the author has fallen into the leftist style of “tell enough lies, loud enough and somebody will believe you”.

  • donaldo

    Is the author going to add a paragraph or two to address the last part of the title? There is nothing in here that makes a case that the 40 hour work week hurt the economy.

  • bt

    The author lacks a basic understanding of economics–life consists of unlimited needs and desires, and severely limited reality. The myth that there is “overproduction”, or that goods that haven’t sold yet are “surplus” that would exist if someone wasn’t willing to pay for someone else to produce them, was exposed as a fraud during the Depression, but the Keynesian socialists still perpetuate it.

    Real jobs don’t involve 40 hour work weeks–certainly not 35. Sure, if you’re punching the clock at McDonald’s, you get out as soon as you can, and have no stake in your job performance beyond your wages. The mentality that you can benefit from kneecapping your employer with union featherbedding is the same one that’ll keep you from accomplishing anything in life.

    Serious careers take serious time and effort. All those other countries which have rewarded failures, punished success and hard work, destroyed their middle classes, and gutted their economies use work limitations to try to undo their perpetually high unemployment.

    But they’re bankrupt. Ask Greece, Italy, Portugal, Spain, France, and Britain how the 35-hour work weeks, useless government jobs, retirement at 50 and ridiculous pensions are working out. They’re broke–they’ve all run out of other people’s money to steal.

    Yet the control freaks running this country insist on racing toward their mediocrity and failure…hm…

  • Anonymous

    Tell enough lies et al was made famous by a noted rightwinger. The leftest extremests don’t care if you believe or not. But since they have all been gone for quite a while I guess most folks would not know that.

  • I.B. aSchmuck

    Those darned leftists anyway. Aren’t they the ones that screamed Weapons of Mass Destruction were in Iraq? ( “tell enough lies, loud enough and somebody will believe you”.) No wait, that was the “other” extremists.

  • Anonymous

    bt – you are the only smart person with a comment worth reading. everyone else are ignorant fools that are lazy, worthless, and standing in line with their hands out waiting for their next hand out.

  • tgardengirl

    What’s onn my mind.i just read about reducing the amount of hours a day at work. What would you do with your time. I have found a cense of pride when I work a good 8 hours a day. I have found that there are a lot of people that don’t want to work 8 hours a day. They sit around there house and do nothing but complain. You should be talking more productive ways for people to get that couch.And get more exercise and feel good about being more productive. I have a friend who thinks because she has a Masters Degree that she can get any job any time. But she is finding out that things are not the same as they were. She thinks that she will get a job by searching the net. But she will not physically get up and leave her house to look for a job. End of the story is now she out of money,no money to pay credit cards or her Morgage.Wise man once said 8 hours of hard work is good for your soul. And it pays the BIlls.I can say that being older I appreciate that I can Get up every day and do my job.And sleep well every night. Hurt the economy who said that. That is a STUPID COMMENT.Must be some idiot not working to say something like that.

  • BB

    Ask a farmer or small business owner how many hours they work…its probably a lot more than 40 hours per week.

  • ur.a.schmuck

    That depends on how you define WMD, and if you actually search the country and not just a few “approved” sites while under Iraqi supervision, and if you don’t send in a UN cronie half-twit to conduct the “inspections”. Also that depends on how much Pravda you believe coming out of the MSM and how your thinking is shaped by it, comrade.

    But right now, the Obama misadministration is in charge (in a manner of speaking). We look forward to der Fuhrer’s “Fairness Doctrine” being rammed down our throats just like his medicare was. Just remember his quote “don’t let the ones who caused the problem speak.” That says it all about free speech and freedom of expression. You’re right, Obama does tell enough lies, loud enough and all the lefties believe him.

    As for the “so-called” WMDs, they were shipped into Syria shortly before the approved inspections began or they are still hidden in the many bunkers and areas that the UN inspectors (the UNinspectors, actually) were told were off limits to them. But aside from that, WTF are we still doing in Iraq? Couldn’t Obama just issue an Executive Order like he has often in the past and get our good ol’ boys back in a matter of weeks? Or has somehow, magically, the bad, bad, Bush-is-Hitler, blood for oil, evil, satannic, illegal occupation of Iraq somehow been transformed into a mission of mercy just by the mere presence of the Holy One being elected?

  • Your name here…

    lol, Hitler proposed this idea first. It’s called the big lie. No matter how unbelievable it may seem, tell the lie loud enough and passionately enough, and people will being to believe you. It’s the foundation of Karl Rove’s success. So both the extreme right and extreme left have used the big lie to manipulate people. WMD vs Global Warming

  • IndyMD

    As a physician, I average 50-60/week with the occasional 70+ hours per week. I dream of 40 hours!!

  • Violet Weed

    I highly doubt, in fact I state it is a LIE, that King Alfred ever said anything resembling work 8 hours sleep 8 hrs play 8 hrs. What a crock! SERF worked 12-16 hrs, had to bend over and enjoy it if the King wanted some tail and basically survived on potatoes and greens 90% of their very short lives.

  • interesting

    so the fact that we have a higher debt per capita and we are working longer than most of the countries you named seems to explain your lack of knowledge in this area.

  • GWTW

    “Also, in many countries, the average number of paid vacation days averages 20 hours (or four weeks), whereas in the United States, the average vacation period is 10 days.”

    It should say 20 days, not 20 hours. Please have someone proofread the articles better. Good article though.

  • Jim S

    France is the only one of the nations you mention that in fact has a mandated 35 hour work week. Sounds like you’ve been consuming Fox News too much. If you want to see some jobs that are worthless when it comes to actual productive things for the country look at Wall Street and the modern investment bank.

  • Jim S

    Why is a massive display of ignorance so worthy of your time?

  • Jim S

    Somehow I think that if she read this post she wouldn’t be your friend any longer since you have such a low opinion of her.

  • Rich

    Funny that the examples cited are state employees. Who are not considered to have high productivity when compared to the private sector.

  • Guest

    You don’t seem to be living in the same era. I work in NYC and when I was laid off in 2001 it was pure shell shock. The only way that I could get into companies and employment agencies for interviews was through the internet. When I would call through the newspaper to make an appointment, these places told me I had to sign up online. The days of “pounding the pavement” are gone. A Masters Degree means nothing if there are no jobs available.

  • Jason

    Seriously! That was the part I was interested in learning about.

  • MudBaby

    Now this is what I call propaganda sponsored by banks who want to jerk us around and charge us massive fees for banking services so they can lavish large dividends on their shareholders and pay obscenely large salaries and bonuses to their top brass. If you’re thrilled doing business with your bank, read no further. Otherwise, I recommend moving your money to a credit union. The whys and hows of moving your money are explained here:


  • Don Roberto

    Violet, you’re displaying your ignorance. Potatoes are a New World plant: unless King Alfred’s serfs were either time travelers or teleporters, they would live their entire lives without seeing a potato. That doesn’t make your other unsupported dogmatic claim (“it is a LIE…”) very credible.

  • Rob

    I work for the government and I’m proud to say that I scored higher than 90% of the nation on all of the standard tests. Thanks anyway.

  • Ra

    American need a smaller work week with less commute time, so parents can raise their children.

  • Anonymous

    can’t read this article–it is cut off on the right edge

  • maxpaid

    So follow the european model? The EU is failing for reasons such as this. We work hard and play hard.
    You dont work you dont eat.

  • Responder

    You said: Eric Rauch from MIT noted in his 2000 paper Productivity and the Workweek that “An average worker needs to work a mere 11 hours per week to produce as much as one working 40 hours in 1950.” In other words, we should be able to work reduced hours with no impact on productivity.

    Response: Alright, we’ll be as productive as we were in 1950. I don’t think that’s something to strive for.

  • Jeff

    Also, in many countries, the average number of paid vacation days averages 20 hours? Is not this 20 DAYS?

  • BDL

    Umm . . . most countries reduced their workweek to force companies into hiring more people, but most companies instead ended up hiring fewer full-time workers. The cost-benefit ratio had changed. Full-Time workers brought fewer hours to the table and cost the same benefits package, so they hire more part-time workers instead.

    That’s why the workweek went down and production didn’t change. It wasn’t a good thing.

  • EdgarX

    That’s fine and dandy for hourly workers, but if you are on a salary, there is no such thing. You are expected to work 50+ hours for the privilege of holding your “exempt” status.

  • jbaer

    How is it that many European countries have shorter work weeks and much more vacation time than the US, while maintaining a modern 21’st century lifestyle? The Nordic countries routinely top any study showing the best places to live, yet somehow maintain modern lifestyles while the people there work less hours than they do in the US.

  • Fleur

    Well, that must be nice.

  • Don

    Don’t you just hate all those “socialist” nations that the Republicans warn us we will become if they aren’t put back in complete power? Imagine,,,,how horrible!!!! a 30 hour workweek with 20 vacation days mandated by the government and oh yeah, that national healthcare plan thats free to all citizens and visitors! Horrible just horrible!! Just maybe lowering full time to 30 hours will actually free up space for another person to be the “second shift” fulltimer and lower this chronic unemployment problem??

    Who am I kidding, that’s way too forward thinking for spineless American congressman and senators who suck on the tit on corporate contributions to keep their jobs.

  • Your Kidding Right…

    Just who do you expect to pay for all that you have suggested? With all that vacation time and less hours, I would fully expect a dramatic cut in pay. Then there are less wages to be taxed on, resulting in less money to pay for all of the “free” heath care. Every action has a reaction.

    • Aubrey

      Well sure if the people just sit around twiddling their thumbs with their time off that’s exactly what would happen. The sad thing is that most of them would! I will always have something productive to do on my time off but most people I know wouldn’t know what to do if given the extra time off.

  • just thinking

    the industrial revolution in america didn’t start around 1800. add 50 years to get an approximate start date. the reason for long work hours around 1800 is that we were an agrarian society, which required such a time commitment.

    • logician1

      “These 4 hour days are killing me” George Jetson 1965

  • GubmentCheese

    In the inner cities, you can go decades with working zero hours a week.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe some of that CEO compensation could actually pay for the people who keep the businesses running.

  • guest

    As a percentage of GDP, we are at historic low level that goes to the pentagon. Check your facts and stop listening to blogs and do some research

  • Lauren SC

    “In the inner cities”??
    Uh, hmm, those are code-words for…..?

    Yeah, we get your meaning.

  • gmmed

    Less work hours also means less pay if your pay is dependant upon how many hours you work. A plus would be overtime pay if you worked more than the shorter work week.

  • A

    you made a typo, it should read the average vacation is 20 days (four weeks), not 20 hours

  • Paul

    I believe one other effect of reducing hours, or at least reducing the work week, is its potentially very positive effect on families. More time spent at home with the kids means kids grow up feeling more accomplishment, a stronger drive to accomplish more, and have more ‘wisdom’, or at least knowledge, imparted to them. It’s been proven recently that lack of sleep, or highly restless sleep, caused in part by a 40-hour work week, actually informs obesity in adults, which in turn informs it in their children.

    So, in my opinion, we are actually less productive than our parents were, and it’s going down to our children, next. That’s because we work too much, are not rested, and are not accomplishing those things we need to accomplish, even if it’s just catching a trout from a beautiful mountain river, in order to feel a sense of accomplishment in our lives. Our children see our lack of energy, lack of accomplishment, and children will, naturally, only emulate their parents.

    I’m all for reducing work hours, the resultant lower cost of products in this nation, and perhaps a return to a 1950s lifestyle which, in my opinion, from where I sit, is far better than what I’m living now.

  • Anonymous

    @Gubmentcheese – what do you mean?

  • Anonymous

    i agree for the most part. i had a conversation with my friend the other day about the positive correlation between education and happiness, and my argument for why that could be is that higher education demands that people set and achieve accomplishments in school and that’s what leads to greater sense of achievement, and hence, happiness. (as to your example of catching fish.) but i don’t know if our country will ever see that wholesome goodness of values and innocence i keep seeing on black and white tv shows that wasn’t ever part of my lifetime…

  • Anonymous

    What is your time worth?
    As much as an NBA super star, President of USA, Teacher, Fast food employee, Garbage worker?
    Funny how the one we can do with out gets paid the most.

  • Anonymous

    How does this article make any sense? Sure, by today’s standards a 40 hr work week in 1950 can be compressed into 11 hrs. That’d be great, if we still measured productivity by 1950’s standards, but we measure it by 2010 standards just like the article suggests we measure standard of living by 2010 standards. The same logic would say that if you made $10 in 1950 then it’s the same as making $50 in 2010, so we should all be satisfied with $10.

    The bottom line is that if we nationally reduce thew work week from 40hrs to 32 hrs then we’re missing 8hrs per person of 2010 productivity, which, btw, is the year we live in.

  • Lydia

    I believe job satisfaction and thus productivity would go up. Many are chained to, but burnt out. Many people are burnt out and unfulfilled by their jobs and have little time to pursue their passions. Some have dual incomes and don’t need to earn as much money. This would also considerably resolve our unemployment problem, because more jobs would be created to fill the excess hours. I believe that there should be an option for full time workers to be classified as 32 hour ft with some type of benefits package. Now that health care is changing, we can come up with new options for workers and the whole econnomic system.

    • Aubrey

      One good point you’ve made is that people get burned out. I’m one of those. Too much time doing anything will cause you to despise it. It all depends on the job itself but as far as mine goes a shorter work week would have tremendous advantages.

  • William Gon

    less work means less money and less money means no roof if living cost stays the same

  • spotDawa

    I find it pretty amusing that the main concern of the article is corporate profit. The total outstanding debt located in the giant global casino known as credit derivative swaps (CDS) is estimated at over 1 QUADRILLION dollars.

    You tell me, how a monetary system that includes more debt than there is real wealth in the world, is supposed to be a basis for employment? Corporate and individual greed absolutely rule this broken world, and that is why it is broken.

    I disdain the idea, brainwashed into all the sheeple, that corporate profits are what matters in life. BS.

  • Nick

    I have been a labor supervisor for a while and one thing that I can say with certainty is that productivity is higher by working longer hours on less days. Every day my employees would spend about an hour getting ready for work and then cleaning up after work so over the 6 day work week we lost about 6 hours of productivity so in other words 42 hours of productivity/48 hours. With a 12 hours workday we would accomplish 44 hours of productivity/48 hours. 2 hours isn’t much, but when you have a crew of 6 people it is like adding another person for a day. I also felt that they employees would prefer to just have a 3 day weekend rather than less work each day

  • Anonymous

    some of the hardest working people I know come from “the inner cities,” including myself. Take your racist attitude and poor grammar back to whatever rock it is you crawled out from under.

  • GBRClaire

    Thanks for catching that!

  • Iowa State Alumnus

    Iowa State switched *some* employees to a 4-day, 10 hour work week. 10*4=40.

    40 hours = 40 hours

    5 day work week = 4 day work week (in terms of raw hours)

  • Iowa State Alumnus

    I prefer my obesity be uninformed, like the general American populous.

  • Erik

    Why should we be slaves to productivity numbers to begin with? Many of us work far more than 40 hours a week, and while we, maybe, earn a little more money, we were not created (or evolved) to generate cash, but to live. Our society has suckered us into giving up our land, which used to be for the use of all – remember how our ancestors could hunt or fish just outside of town – now we must work overtime to buy canned tuna. Our economy, which we slavishly serve – so we can have the latest cell phone or newest Prada shoes – devours our soul – so we can have “freedom.” What exactly is this “freedom” of ours that we cherish so proudly. The freedom of the powerful to corral the weak and poor into market segments and force us onto reservations (apartment complexes and subdivisions).

    A shorter work week – and perhaps – a more basic 50’s lifestyle – perhaps would let us enjoy our few precious years of life, better than would an extra few thousand dollars a year. We can always make money, but we can never get back time.

  • Anonymous

    Wow talk about fuzzy math here. Look, how about people just work what they want, oh wait they do. We are in the jobs we choose for ourselves. Don’t want to work 40 hours, find another employer. It’s our choice in the end. Let people do want they want, employers and employees.
    Btw, it is known fact that thesespeopke in other countries enjoy a smaller standard of living.

  • Anonymous

    No. You can sit at a desk for 40 hours and only end up doing 20 hours of work. Productivity is the measurement they are looking at. Also, insurance is often only given to individuals working “full-time” or 40 hours. Meaning we exist in a system that enforces a 40 hour work week and as counter intuitive as it may be, it is doing more harm than good.

  • Sarah

    “Look, how about people just work what they want, oh wait they do.”
    Reminds me of an eight year old last week that over-heard me mention that I was tired after a hard week at work. Her advice; If your job’s really hard, why don’t you just quit?
    There are still people that don’t get their “dream job”, and are willing to work in a less than ideal situation when they are given the alternative of that or un-employment.

  • Sarah

    Personally, if I had the choice, I’d still take the the 10 hour 4-day week. Why? Add in one more factor…
    4 hour a week commute < 5 hour a week commute

  • rjo55

    “….other countries enjoy a smaller standard of living….”

    If you mean having 400 cable channels, a flat screen TV to waste your life away, a 2500 square foot house that doesn’t get utilized – except to fill it full of garbage that we don’t need, an SUV that burns gallons by the minute, an education system that is falling apart, credit card debt that won’t be able to get paid over the next 20 years, politician’s voting for the corporations instead of the people, etc, etc, etc…..

    Yeah, I forgot that is “The American Dream”!!!!

    • yeah a real dream would be of A Resource Based Economy. That way people would be motivated by the dreams that they have had all their lives that have gone unfulfilled because they have to waste their lives slaving away in their offices for 40 plus hours every week.

  • Anonymous

    Is there a readable version of this somewhere?

  • Anonymous

    This article was very interesting however, I do not believe it actually supported its claim…and definitely did not support its title How it Hurt the Economy. I am not saying that the writer is wrong…I just wish there was more than just questions raised with historical facts to support asking the questions…but not support the hypothesis.

  • Guest

    What a bunch of hogwash. Sure productivity might have increased, but try living on less than 40 hours a week.This so called “article” (looks more like opinion piece to me) doesn’t even mention the lost income for who already have to work less than 40 hours a week.
    Want to know one of the main reasons why the government decided to get involved in healthcare? It’s exactly because of companies that don’t offer theri employees any healthcare because they work less than 30 hours a week.

  • bobdob

    yes but dont forget the fact that in the 50s there were not 100 trillion people on the planet either

  • Tony

    Productivity is a measure of output versus cost. With all else being equal, working fewer hours lowers productivity because all of the benefits and overhead costs, with the exception of a few items such as electricity, will be divided be fewer hours worked. This increases the cost per hour of each employee and lowers productivity.



  • Acaraho

    No one works a 40 hour regular work week anymore. Sure, people put in 40 hours (or more) of time in where they work but if you add in socializing, extended breaks and lunches, coming in late , leaving early, and just loafing off, it probably comes to around 20 hours of actual work time per week. I know because I saw my co-workers do that every day for 36 years and I know where I work was representative of many other businesses. Hey, just read Dilbert to see how it is to work in an American office. Scott Adams gets it.

  • DAVE


  • DAVE


  • Annie B

    The information in this article is false. There was no such thing as a medieval ‘workday’ controlled by ‘hours’ – as there were few CLOCKS. Also, the ‘hours’ of the Church – which is what medieval references to hours are about – were set by sun movement and each was an average of TWO hours long. (Well, the ones at night were longer and the ones in the morning were shorter – but there were only 12 ‘hours’ in a full day.)
    So king ALfred – who BTW would have spoken the germanic Old English – could never have said anything about the 8 hour day.
    Medieval work contracts – and in general work until the late 1800’s – was set by the week or by the season. Farm contracts by the year. A person lived with their work and their employer. Not at all like modern jobs. The expectation was that one would work ‘while there is light’ on six days a week and go to church on Sunday.

  • Anonymous

    Shorter work weeks fine by me!

  • Anonymous

    40 hour work week? Never had one in the corporate defense contracting world. Its been 45 hours + for three years now and I am just a pion. Close to a nervous breakdown at this point I may add.

  • JR

    Holding inventory is always a loss. Your money is tied up in material that you don’t need when it could otherwise be used to gain a ROI. While I do agree that Changeover time is also a loss, you should never make 2 years of inventory at a time because of it. The reason companies don’t hold inventory is only partially due to taxes. Its also due to the fact that you could stick the money in any bond/stock/CD etc. and make a ton more money than sitting on inventory.

    The reason companies relocate to other contries is because of COST. Believe it or not, companies work to make money. I’m pretty sure most people work for the same reason. If you can produce for 10% less in a low cost country, and shipping and inventory costs don’t exceed that amount then it makes sence to relocate to there.

    Unions are definately not the only contributor, but are 1 of the major contributers to driving up COSTS and as a result forcing companies outside the country.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, but you’ve worked 45 hours a wee for three years and are close to a nervous breakdown?

    I’d hate to see what would happen to you if there were an emergency and you had to put in a lot of hours during the course of a day, instead of averaging one extra hour per day. You’d probably have to be put into a sanitarium. Or put to sleep.

  • Mandy Cat

    During the last five years of my 28-year career in the computer industry, I would have killed for a 40-hour work week. When I began as a programmer in 1981, my peers and I worked hard and when the pinch was on we worked long hours but we were still able to balance work life and personal life. By the time I retired, the work week had for all practical purposes expanded to 24 by 7, at the whim of management. Some management theory genius even came up with a catchy name: Agile Lifecycle Development. Every minute of our lives was assumed to belong to our employer unless otherwise specified; there were no boundaries. They got away with it because technical jobs were scarce but it’s hard to think of a bunch of sleep-deprived drones, resentful at being treated with such contempt, as “productive” especially since we had to carve out hours from an already hectic day once a quarter to listen to our CEO driveling on about the importance of family.

  • Tony R

    I am not worried about my hours yet. I am mostly worried that our countries economy is based on the military and the contracts to support their actions. Their actions are mostly for the purpose of musling into other countries on behalf of wallstreet,banks, and corperations. That way the wealthy and powerful elite can export all our jobs overseas to expoit cheap labor. These are the same people we bail out with our tax money. Something has got to give.

  • Nate

    Old thread but I can’t resist making a comment. I’m amazed out how many people defend the 40-hour + work week like it’s some kind of honorable thing. As a salaried IT person I work more than 40 hours a week and I don’t enjoy it. I can’t stand when people say “it’s job security” to somehow defend the ridiculous and frustrating scenarios we are all thrown into everyday of the work week. Technology was supposed to allow us to achieve the same levels of productivity while working less hours. But corporations are greedy and work us all to the bone. CEO salaries don’t get cut when things get bad. Workers get cut and the remaining people get asked to do more work. When the economy recovers things stay the same because they’ve realized they can get by with less workers. The point is, time is precious and you don’t get it back. Yes the majority of us have to work 40 hours a week to pay our mortgage, car payment, daycare, credit card bills etc but we shouldn’t have too. And it’s not that easy to just quit your job if you don’t like it. Yes i’m idealistic but so what? Why shouldn’t we want more free time to enjoy the things and people we love. And for the record, I do see how we have brought a lot of this on ourselves with our rampant consumerism. I have always tried to live within my means yet I’m still struggling to save money. But the only way out these days is to live on a commune. I’m not saying we don’t need to work. I’m just saying we need to work less.

  • Dave

    When you own your own business, you work until you finish your project, when you are an Executive you get paid a lot because guess what you aren’t worried about what time you will be done with work, because you are in a leadership role and have to ensure the business is able to profit. Companies at the end are for the bottom line, but our education system has taught many that they are entitled to benefits, and now people want a short work weeks.

  • Skip

    “”For instance, in the 4th century A.D., the Roman Empire had a whopping 175 holidays in a year, something workers of today would love””.


  • adrian

    Netherlands: 27 hours????

    Not in yours dreams! The author obviously did not
    read official statistics

    A fulltime job in the Netherlands: 36 hours

    Count also for the avarage job, a Dutchmen works two hours overtime not being paid (official statistics)

  • Mark R

    I don’t like the idea of a “standard workweek” at all. I agree with the commenter who said people ultimately are able to choose their own work hours, by choosing where to work. However what perplexes me is when I tell people I chose a job requiring far fewer than 40 hours (and definitely getting paid less for it, but that’s my own choice), most folks react as if it’s somehow immoral, or dishonest, or disrespectful or whatever. Whatever happened to the individual pursuit of happiness?? That said, I live in the Washington DC area where people tend to be on the ambitious side.

    • dfgdg

      According to the common thought of America, If you don’t hate your job; it ain’t a real job.

      Sad isn’t it?

      • John

        I know. I worked at a call center 13 years ago, and one respondent said that I needed to get a real job. I was getting paid for it, so how wasn’t it real?

  • MIke

    I for one think it’s ridiculous that we all work so much. I currently work as an IT analyst for a fortune 500 company. Our work week is 37.5 hours but if something breaks I can be up all night fixing it. The sad part is I usually have about 20 hours a week where I basically surf the internet. I should be paid for the work I do, not a certain number of hours. You can bet your bottom dollar if I could leave when my work was done I would probably only work 10 hours a week. I have changed my entire mindset lately. My mail goal in life is to work part time now. My wife and I are saving money to move away from the expensive D.C. area to Rochester or somewhere that we can buy a house with cash. Then I will try to work 25-30 hours a week and actually have time to enjoy my life. Materialism will never bring you happiness. Isn’t that the most important thing in life?

    • Aubrey

      Come to Greenville Mississippi my friend. We’d be glad to have you. I guarantee you can own a mansion here with ten acres attached for what you’re paying in D.C. Crime is high here but so is D.C. 😉

  • Ahem Mike, you said it. Good plan.

  • Duncan Patterson

    I think the 40 hour work week is a bunch of crap, we were not put on this earth to slave for a bunch of greedy assholes and their little suck ass companies. The people that agreed to this crap should have been strung up or shot, maybe even a little beheading. But nothing ever changes in this piss poor country. The system in this country should have been created to help people have a better life not work their asses to the bone and then discard them like a piece of trash. A lot of things can change but people in general are too afraid of change or their too afraid of our chicken shit government.

  • Chris

    Duncan you are AWESOME!!

  • Ken K

    Duncan you’re the man! Let’s kill all those greedy assholes that own those little suck ass companies than all 300 million of us (minus the dead greedy assholes) can revert back to hunting and gathering to sustain our lives and our families. Just make certain you have enough money for an annual hunting permit and you don’t remove any eatables from state or federal property. Of course the 47% +/- of us on the gov’t dole won’t have to worry because the gov’t will continue to provide for us until it realizes that those greedy assholes are dead and not paying taxes or providing jobs to employees who also are no longer paying taxes. I suspect you might become one of those greedy assholes yourself since you would not work for one. you are a person of principal, yea, right! Wake up moron…….

  • Ann

    It should be 30 hours or less.

  • byron allen

    obviously, most of the contributors to this article have never started a company or had to meet a payroll. This article is all theory with no reference to reality. 60 hours per week is much more like it and many entrepreneurs work many more hours.

    • ginger3100

      You’re brain has been programmed to believe this. Life is not about all work and no play. Part of the reason that so many Americans never smile or laugh is because they are overworked, underpaid, and exhausted. On the other hand, the top 1% who hire them…own these huge corporations are thriving. They never heard of sharing their good fortune with their laborers who actually have made them so rich. Since they constantly find cheaper ways of making things, it never occurred to them either,to give their customers a break by lowering their prices, based on their cost, rather than how much more profit they can get.

      Corporations used to earn 10% to 100% profit until the 80’s, in the last 30 years, de-regulation has brought their profits up to 35,000% profit….yes, that’s correct, up to 35,000% profit. This is obscene; it is criminal; it is cruel and selfish; it is inhumane. And something’s got to be done about this. I am self employed, but I feel for the employees all over the country who are being abused by Corporate America. Corporations were once controlled by the government…to protect the People. Now they’ve taken over and are running the government by their wealth and bribery.

  • Matt
  • Aubrey

    One thing not mentioned here is the co$t of busy work. I can easily do my work in three days time but I spend the rest of my time trying to LOOK like I’m working. I see lots of tax dollars lost in busy work projects on a daily basis. I work 40 hours a week as a building inspector and I’m on call every other week as an arson investigator in one of the most fire-ridden towns in the U.S. I normally have to take a vacation day just to catch up on sleep. Of course if I do so I lose all of my overtime. It all depends on the job but as far as mine goes I would be much more productive if I weren’t so exhausted all the time. I’ve even thought of taking a pay cut just to work less hours a week. It would be worth it. The job doesn’t pay enough to make a good living anyway so that just means more time to make extra money on side projects. If I were working for myself and had my own business I wouldn’t mind working 50 to 60 hours a week. In that case I would actually benefit from a longer work week. The one or two hours I’m paid digging through fire debris at three o clock in the morning don’t amount to much come payday. It’s rare that I get 5 hours of sleep a night. It’s just not healthy and not productive as well as expensive on tax payers. On another note I often wonder about how many of our police officers’ automobile accidents are due to sleep deprivation.

  • loungington

    henry ford adopted a 40 hour work week in 1914, but they dont like to teach that because he was also against the unions, and they just took credit for his ideas